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June 26, 2023
John Rizvi, Esq.

Apple Patents New Camera-Equipped Watch | Radio Interview with WBAP NewsTalk | John Rizvi

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Apple, everybody knows apple.

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They're pulling their inspiration, I guess from James Bond in designing a hidden camera

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in a new watch that supposedly is coming up.

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They received a patent for a camera attached to the band allowing the

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the person wearing it to rotate, or I guess even detach, to snap a photo, make a video call that kind of thing. The system would feature a unique band, connecting the Apple watch with a magnet, maybe a latch, allowing it to be easily removed and then reattach.

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And bottom line, I guess, if you're into those high tech kind of things, that sort of bringing James Bond a life Right.

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With me to talk about this and other things. John Rizvi, the patent professor, he's an adjunct professor of patent law at Nova Southeastern law school in Florida, sir, how you doing? Yeah, it's good. Pleasure to be here. All right, tell me how this thing works. Let's just say I've got one on my wrist, right? I don't even wear watch.

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But let's just say I've got one of them on my wrist. What can I do with this thing? Okay, well, this may be the watch, that gives you a reason to wear a watch. Well, we'll see. So it has this camera that that detaches. And I think what they're what they're trying to go for is the is replace the cell phone. So so far Apple Watches are, are great, they do save a lot of time, people can send text receive messages, but it doesn't, they still always want to bring their cell phone with them. For example, if you go to the gym, and you want to take selfie videos, while you work out, you might have an Apple Watch for your heart rate and everything else. But to take pictures, you can't. So this, this is something that would allow you to do that. And the fact that the camera detaches means that you can place it at some distance away from you and take like a selfie mode. So it's all about because honestly, with you know, I, I've got a

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I've got a pretty advanced cell phone.

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But I also get to email through that and that kind of thing. I don't I don't take many pictures I'm on might take a picture of the dog once in a while. But that's, you know, I'm pretty much rest assured nobody cares what I'm having for lunch. So I don't, I don't do that kind of thing. But I know a lot of people do. Right. Right. And, and maybe you know, and it's it yes, it's getting closer to the one less one fewer device. I mean, at one time, there were separate digital cameras, separate from my cell phone. So that was a combination of the camera and the cell phone, which now you speak to any of you know, anyone that's younger, I would say even under 30. They can't even imagine a cell phone that doesn't have the ability to take pictures. They can't imagine them as having separate devices

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for pictures and a camera. So I mean, I guess the hope, from Apple standpoint is to bring that same kind of combination to the wristwatch to where people would not, you know, cannot imagine a wristwatch not having the ability to take pictures, and whether that's the world's actually going to go in that direction. I mean, who's to say that there may be a lot more people like, like you and I that are not constantly capturing photographs. But they they certainly have a niche market that they're targeting. And that's the market that that is constantly taking selfie pictures with their cell phone. And now that apple with the wristwatch, you can actually make and receive calls. So this is one way to have one fewer device that you have to carry around. Yeah, I get that purpose. Let me ask you about this professor because I used to do the national commercials for a TNT. And every time they came up with with a new product, they would send me one. And I don't even recall what the promotion was about. But this phone in I'm not embellishing. It was maybe

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three inches tall, and an inch and a half wide. It was so small that it was useless. And you know, the promotion for that thing I think only lasted about two or three months. But I mean

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if it's a wristwatch selfie you're taking

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I'm sorry, isn't that pretty small?

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I mean compared with your cell phone, even cell phone, pictures can be pretty hard to

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See?

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Yeah, no 100%, and then you're talking about even a smaller screen

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to receive, to see the picture. So it's gonna, in other words, you're saying you might defeat the purpose, you receive a picture from somebody, if you need to have your cell phone just to have a larger screen to be able to see it. Well, then you've got your two devices anyway. Right? That's what that's where I was going with that. I mean, I think it's kind of cool. And I know there are a lot of, you know, techies out there that are gonna, you know, champion this thing. But if, if the pictures are so small off a wristwatch, camera, that you've got to download it someplace else to see it, then you're gonna need two devices anyway, I guess.

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What, what, what do you think the people are gonna think about this? What kind of audience is there out there for this? Yes, so it's hard to tell. And remember, the this is an granted patent. And an Apple may or may not actually end up launching the product, sometimes, you know, they're their Apple files, and has 2500 patents per year. Not all of them become products. But a lot of times, it's really hard to gauge

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consumer demand in advance, I don't remember the initial when initially, when tablet computers came out the iPad, for example, there were a lot of experts that that really anticipated it to flop because a tablet doesn't have the power of a desktop, or a laptop. And it's not small enough to really have the versatility of a cell phone. And they figured it was fitting this middle ground, and really didn't do either function well. So it didn't have the portability of a cell phone, you can't put a tablet in your pocket. It's big and too bulky for that. And yet it didn't have the computing power that your laptop did. And it was expected to die in the complete opposite. I mean, now, I don't know how many years we are into them, but the tablets not going anywhere. No, no, you're right. You know what I've seen no, Professor, more and more. You know, initially, I saw the tablet.

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You know, a lot of execs had tablets, and, you know, people that worked in the business world. I don't see that much anymore. But I see a lot of little kids

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working on a, I guess a tablet that's designed for children, right? Yes. And in fact, there's apps specifically targeting them. So that's, you know, sometimes it's

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a device gets, the hardware gets made. And it's really the software that ends up providing the real use. And that's a lot of that's been with cell phones as well, when they the expression, there's an app for that. Without the applications, the utility of the cell phone would be substantially lower, right? It's the app that really

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create value. So who knows, maybe that's where the future of this device is gonna lie. It's not because we don't have the apps yet

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for a removable camera on a wristwatch, but if suddenly there ends up becoming really well developed apps that are made for this combination, then that may increase the utility and the usefulness and maybe that's going to help spur,

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you know, sales for Apple, talking with John Rizvi, the patent professor, He's professor of patent law at Nova Southeastern University Law School in Florida. Only got about a minute or so left, what are you seeing coming down the road? The newest tech device that people are can't wait to see hit the shelves?

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Yeah, so I think right now that

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anything artificial intelligence, AI, related and chat GPT new applications for that new uses for that. There's a lot of talk of, you know, some of its negative, like potential job losses, in fact, from Ai, which it's all really hard to predict. It depends on how how sophisticated it becomes. Right now, it is a little bit clunky. It's not all that hard, I think, to tell something created by chat GPT from someone actually doing the writing themselves. But that may change these things may improve over time. And and it would start having more practical applications. So I but I think for the near future, it's going to be really artificial intelligence related innovation is going to be a big part of of the patenting. Well, a lot of people would argue that artificial intelligence has has been honed in the nation's capital.

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I'm looking for any intelligence to be honest professor I appreciate your time and hopefully we can talk again

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